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Threat Led Defense and the Future of Cybersecurity with Rick Gordon

John Dillard
By John Dillard  |  30 Oct 2025  |  1 mins


Show Summary

In this episode, host John Dillard is joined by Rick Gordon, co-founder of Tidal Cyber, to discuss his extensive career in cybersecurity and investments. He shares insights from his time at Mach37 and Mitre, highlighting the creation of Tidal Cyber and its approach to 'threat led defense.' Rick emphasizes the importance of addressing adversarial behaviors and the democratization of threat intelligence through tools like Mitre ATT&CK. He also offers his perspective on cybersecurity trends, challenges, the role of AI, and strategies for long-term security success.

Key takeaways

  • Mission-driven work leads to lasting fulfillment.
  • Security is about reducing risk, not just compliance.
  • Luck is necessary, but preparation and resilience matter most in entrepreneurship.
  • The boundaries between cyber, physical, and information security are artificial—principles are universal.
  • AI is a tool, not a panacea; fundamentals still matter.
  • Building a strong ecosystem and mentor network is as important as individual company success.
Quotes
“Security is security—the metaphors and principles don’t change across domains.”

“If you’re not measuring residual risk, it’s not security. You’re doing something else.”

“AI will democratize advanced capabilities, but the hype will burst. Fundamentals win.”

“A good entrepreneur recognizes that everything is necessary but insufficient—unless you include luck.”

“You can’t be a security professional and not ask and answer: Can I defend X against Y?”

 

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Threat Led Defense and the Future of Cybersecurity with Rick Gordon
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John Dillard

John Dillard

John’s career spans intelligence, entrepreneurship, and security innovation. He started at the CIA, served in the Navy Reserve, co-founded Big Sky Associates, and went on to build ThreatSwitch—a security compliance platform acquired by Sign In Solutions. He’s earned recognition from the US Army and University of South Carolina, and is a member of INSA’s security policy and insider threat subcommittees. Simply put: he’s been in the room where it happens—whether that’s federal briefings or boardrooms.

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